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		<title>Comment on Curriculum Design 8: Moving from &#8220;Here&#8221; to &#8220;There&#8221; with 21st Century Skills by gilboafox</title>
		<link>http://gilboafox.com/2012/07/06/curriculum-design-8-moving-from-here-to-there-with-21st-century-skills/#comment-59</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You raise a very important and relevant point. There is an issue with experiential learning that involves our ability to teach exclusively by using a &quot;real problem&quot; approach. When I was first trained in this approach, that training very much advocated a &quot;learning by real problems&quot; design (such as the one involving Riley in this post). I personally used real problems when I could, but I could not teach my literature courses by using a real problem design alone --- for exactly the reasons you mention. 

Since I believed that the best way to teach skills (such as problem solving or critical thinking) was to embed that teaching in a wider curricular context, the issue to me became: &quot;How can I turn my course curriculum into a series of problems for students to solve&quot;? In my practice, I played with designs that altered the way I defined &quot;real&quot; and my post is perhaps weak in not making that distinction clearer.  I developed a curricular design approach that worked for me: I used &quot;challenge scenarios&quot;. I often created fictional contexts embedded in scenarios (taking a step away from &#039;real world&#039; designs), but I maintained &quot;real&quot; in two ways. First, the problems I posed were real in the sense that students had to really solve a problem and I did not have a pre-conceived solution for how the problem was to be solved. Second, I often had the students present in front of real panels (other students, teachers, parents, school bus drivers, and others). 

I can give a concrete example of this.  My British literature course involved teaching The Canterbury Tales. One of the bits that I wanted students to understand about Chaucer was that his use of descriptive detail --- his realism --- was significant and an important aspect of his genius.  I developed a fictive scenario in which the students were stained glass artisans who were charged with translating “The Pardoner’s Tale” into a stained glass window. Some students were assigned a Romanesque church and some a Gothic church. This assignment was directly tied to my course. It involved reading, research, and so on. Although the scenario was obviously fictive, the problem solving process within that scenario was very real. At the end of their challenge, they had to present their “windows” in public to a live audience (guests we invited into the classroom) who pretended to be the ones in charge of “accepting” the designs for their church. 

The use of fictive scenarios such as this very much helped me bridge between “real world problems” and my curriculum. It also helped us to maintain a sense of play in our learning that I thought was very important. I will write a post on this topic within a week or two. Thank you for your comment. I did appreciate it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You raise a very important and relevant point. There is an issue with experiential learning that involves our ability to teach exclusively by using a &#8220;real problem&#8221; approach. When I was first trained in this approach, that training very much advocated a &#8220;learning by real problems&#8221; design (such as the one involving Riley in this post). I personally used real problems when I could, but I could not teach my literature courses by using a real problem design alone &#8212; for exactly the reasons you mention. </p>
<p>Since I believed that the best way to teach skills (such as problem solving or critical thinking) was to embed that teaching in a wider curricular context, the issue to me became: &#8220;How can I turn my course curriculum into a series of problems for students to solve&#8221;? In my practice, I played with designs that altered the way I defined &#8220;real&#8221; and my post is perhaps weak in not making that distinction clearer.  I developed a curricular design approach that worked for me: I used &#8220;challenge scenarios&#8221;. I often created fictional contexts embedded in scenarios (taking a step away from &#8216;real world&#8217; designs), but I maintained &#8220;real&#8221; in two ways. First, the problems I posed were real in the sense that students had to really solve a problem and I did not have a pre-conceived solution for how the problem was to be solved. Second, I often had the students present in front of real panels (other students, teachers, parents, school bus drivers, and others). </p>
<p>I can give a concrete example of this.  My British literature course involved teaching The Canterbury Tales. One of the bits that I wanted students to understand about Chaucer was that his use of descriptive detail &#8212; his realism &#8212; was significant and an important aspect of his genius.  I developed a fictive scenario in which the students were stained glass artisans who were charged with translating “The Pardoner’s Tale” into a stained glass window. Some students were assigned a Romanesque church and some a Gothic church. This assignment was directly tied to my course. It involved reading, research, and so on. Although the scenario was obviously fictive, the problem solving process within that scenario was very real. At the end of their challenge, they had to present their “windows” in public to a live audience (guests we invited into the classroom) who pretended to be the ones in charge of “accepting” the designs for their church. </p>
<p>The use of fictive scenarios such as this very much helped me bridge between “real world problems” and my curriculum. It also helped us to maintain a sense of play in our learning that I thought was very important. I will write a post on this topic within a week or two. Thank you for your comment. I did appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Curriculum Design 8: Moving from &#8220;Here&#8221; to &#8220;There&#8221; with 21st Century Skills by CristinaM.</title>
		<link>http://gilboafox.com/2012/07/06/curriculum-design-8-moving-from-here-to-there-with-21st-century-skills/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CristinaM.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 20:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I kept reading and rereading this post for a week now and finally decided to reply. 

What you advocate for is sensible and it does get to the heart of learning. What I wonder though is how much of this learning should occur within &quot;authentic&quot; contexts (that is, real-life and student-driven). Because in as much I understand your argument I can&#039;t help but think that my sense of the self, my intellectual identity, my very own humanness was shaped mostly by what today is perceived as &quot;inauthentic&quot; - stories, poetry, readings about great civilizations, biographies of scientists or writers...

Should we dismiss certain subjects or approaches to learning just because they do not feed this urgency and &quot;realness&quot;? Isn&#039;t this a sort of pragmatic way of representing the &quot;me&quot; culture - what interests me, what is useful to me, what matches my interests? As a learner (even now) I was always interested about &quot;other&quot; - people, cultures, ideas. 

I am not even arguing - I am trying to understand where the balance rests...as I am aware of both arguments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kept reading and rereading this post for a week now and finally decided to reply. </p>
<p>What you advocate for is sensible and it does get to the heart of learning. What I wonder though is how much of this learning should occur within &#8220;authentic&#8221; contexts (that is, real-life and student-driven). Because in as much I understand your argument I can&#8217;t help but think that my sense of the self, my intellectual identity, my very own humanness was shaped mostly by what today is perceived as &#8220;inauthentic&#8221; &#8211; stories, poetry, readings about great civilizations, biographies of scientists or writers&#8230;</p>
<p>Should we dismiss certain subjects or approaches to learning just because they do not feed this urgency and &#8220;realness&#8221;? Isn&#8217;t this a sort of pragmatic way of representing the &#8220;me&#8221; culture &#8211; what interests me, what is useful to me, what matches my interests? As a learner (even now) I was always interested about &#8220;other&#8221; &#8211; people, cultures, ideas. </p>
<p>I am not even arguing &#8211; I am trying to understand where the balance rests&#8230;as I am aware of both arguments.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Curricular Designing within the Context of a School Culture (Edited Version) by CristinaM.</title>
		<link>http://gilboafox.com/2012/06/28/curricular-designing-within-the-context-of-a-school-culture-edited-version/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CristinaM.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 13:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish more educators and principals read this curriculum series. You deal with critical issues that are either discussed with superficiality or are ripped apart by extreme views thus eluding consensus in the education blogosphere.
What makes these posts powerful is the teaching experience behind the insights - always a mark of honesty and vulnerability. 
Concluding: keep writing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish more educators and principals read this curriculum series. You deal with critical issues that are either discussed with superficiality or are ripped apart by extreme views thus eluding consensus in the education blogosphere.<br />
What makes these posts powerful is the teaching experience behind the insights &#8211; always a mark of honesty and vulnerability.<br />
Concluding: keep writing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Curricular Designing within the Context of a School Culture (Edited Version) by Cristina Milos</title>
		<link>http://gilboafox.com/2012/06/28/curricular-designing-within-the-context-of-a-school-culture-edited-version/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cristina Milos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish more educators and principals read this curriculum series. You address critical issues that in the ed blogosphere are dealt with superficiality or are buried under extreme views (that eventually lead to nowhere as consensus is missing).
What makes these posts more powerful is the heap of experiences behind the insights which, I am certain, are shared broadly by educators. Digging deeper is your best weapon. 
Concluding, keep writing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish more educators and principals read this curriculum series. You address critical issues that in the ed blogosphere are dealt with superficiality or are buried under extreme views (that eventually lead to nowhere as consensus is missing).<br />
What makes these posts more powerful is the heap of experiences behind the insights which, I am certain, are shared broadly by educators. Digging deeper is your best weapon.<br />
Concluding, keep writing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sanctity by CristinaM.</title>
		<link>http://gilboafox.com/2012/06/17/sanctity/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CristinaM.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Powerful way to honor resilience even as it is accompanied by a sigh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Powerful way to honor resilience even as it is accompanied by a sigh.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Curriculum Design 6: Listening to Learners &amp; the Impact on Design by David Wees</title>
		<link>http://gilboafox.com/2012/06/13/curriculum-design-6-listening-to-learners-the-impact-on-design/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Wees]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with this suggestion. More of the same is not likely to work in any case. &quot;You didn&#039;t get this the first 10 times I said it, so let me say it 20 more times and see if that helps. No, I&#039;m not going to say it differently.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with this suggestion. More of the same is not likely to work in any case. &#8220;You didn&#8217;t get this the first 10 times I said it, so let me say it 20 more times and see if that helps. No, I&#8217;m not going to say it differently.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Curriculum Design 6: Listening to Learners &amp; the Impact on Design by dwees</title>
		<link>http://gilboafox.com/2012/06/13/curriculum-design-6-listening-to-learners-the-impact-on-design/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dwees]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 21:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are there more (apparent) error types than miscues and error? I think I&#039;m going to listen to my son closely when he &quot;makes a mistake&quot; and see if I can untangle his thinking a bit better to see where he was coming from when he &quot;made a mistake.&quot;

I&#039;m in complete agreement that we need to reform how we do assessment in schools. We are starting in a bit of a hole though. John  Scammell recently shared on his blog that 97% of people surveyed (via the Edmonton Journal) who believed &quot;that grades are like pay for work believe strongly that students should get 0′s for missed work.&quot; So the general perception in the public is that assessment is intended only for review, and it may be because that&#039;s the only system they know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there more (apparent) error types than miscues and error? I think I&#8217;m going to listen to my son closely when he &#8220;makes a mistake&#8221; and see if I can untangle his thinking a bit better to see where he was coming from when he &#8220;made a mistake.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in complete agreement that we need to reform how we do assessment in schools. We are starting in a bit of a hole though. John  Scammell recently shared on his blog that 97% of people surveyed (via the Edmonton Journal) who believed &#8220;that grades are like pay for work believe strongly that students should get 0′s for missed work.&#8221; So the general perception in the public is that assessment is intended only for review, and it may be because that&#8217;s the only system they know.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Mist of Wonder by CristinaMilos</title>
		<link>http://gilboafox.com/2012/06/11/the-mist-of-wonder-2/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CristinaMilos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a beautiful thought on a Monday morning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a beautiful thought on a Monday morning.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Curriculum Design 3: Of Lunches and Lessons &#8212; Feeding the Whole Child by IT Consulting</title>
		<link>http://gilboafox.com/2012/05/15/curriculum-design-3-of-lunches-and-lessons-feeding-the-whole-child/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IT Consulting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 10:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice information about Curriculum Design 3 ...............]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice information about Curriculum Design 3 &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Standardized Testing &#8212; The Brutal Search for Factual Data by Single Steps Learning</title>
		<link>http://gilboafox.com/2012/05/03/standardized-testing-the-brutal-search-for-factual-data/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Single Steps Learning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 10:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree with the comment &#039;what the heck are we doing?&#039; - have been talking lots this week about quality learning experiences vs standardised testing…and the purpose behind education etc. I truly believe that the more connected teachers/practitioners become with each other - especially via blogs/social media etc….the stronger our voices will become. And I think your question of &#039;what the heck are we doing?&#039; is ideal for making us all stand still, look around and begin to really debate what is happening at the moment and how we can make a stand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with the comment &#8216;what the heck are we doing?&#8217; &#8211; have been talking lots this week about quality learning experiences vs standardised testing…and the purpose behind education etc. I truly believe that the more connected teachers/practitioners become with each other &#8211; especially via blogs/social media etc….the stronger our voices will become. And I think your question of &#8216;what the heck are we doing?&#8217; is ideal for making us all stand still, look around and begin to really debate what is happening at the moment and how we can make a stand.</p>
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